MediaShout vs ProPresenter, Round 4
March 13, 2008
Question for you ProPresenter fans out there:
On Wednesday nights there’s a group that meets in the room I volunteer at. They watch a 35 minute clip that’s on a DVD and then break out into small groups. I’m trying to simplify my life by capturing the DVD clips and converting them to H.264 format. This would be particularly useful next week because I will be absent, and they are showing 2 clips from 2 different DVD’s. So my preference would be to have the clips on the hard drive ready to go in ProPresenter rather than have my substitute mess with switching discs, etc.
So, last Wednesday, I tried running my H.264 clip. It was 640×480 and encoded at 1200 kbps. I figured this was a reasonable quality for a standard definition projector, not too high, not too low. I watched the first five minutes before hand, everything looked good. So the event starts, I click the video. And about 10 minutes in, the audio and video get out of sync. After a few more minutes it got so bad that people started coming up to the sound board to see if I noticed (Yes, I did, thanks). I ended up switching to the DVD mid clip.
What’s weird is that the video on the local computer display was fine, it was the projector feed that was horribly out of sync. I’m thinking it was just too high quality for feed for that computer. Am I right? How low can I go without noticeable loss? Any other recommendations?
When a program like ProPresenter or MediaShout runs the video in two different places at once (on the projector’s output and on the preview display), it takes quite a few computer resources to pull that off. That’s why MediaShout defaults to not showing the video on the local display, it only shows the thumbnail (along with Play/Pause, seek bar, etc), but there is an option to turn it on if you think your computer can handle it.
Does ProPresenter have any such option to turn off the local preview? Would it help in this case?
September 19, 2008 at 10:30 pm
yes media shout has the option to play the video in the preview windows. its in preferences somewhere, contact media shout if you cant figure it out, or the help menu should help
September 19, 2008 at 10:36 pm
There’s no question that MediaShout can play the video in the preview screen, it’s called Dual-Play. MediaShout assumes you don’t want to tie up computer resources this way, so if you want to see the video in the preview window, you have to click Tools -> Settings, go to the Control tab, and mark the box for “Enable Dual-Play”.
My point was that when video playback is stuttering or problematic in ProPresenter, it would be nice to have the option to turn off the preview so that the playback has more computer resources available.
January 8, 2009 at 11:29 pm
I have seen this with .mov and h.264 formatted video before. Two questions: 1. do you have the proper codecs for MOV playback in MediaShout? 2. Does it play correctly outside of MediaShout?
I love h.264 when playing back in MediaShout but it might be worth it to try a different compression, like Sorenson 3.
January 8, 2009 at 11:38 pm
The problem I was having was with ProPresenter, not MediaShout. I’ve installed the K-Lite codec pack on my Windows machine and it works great to play pretty much any format.
February 26, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I just stumbled across this and seeing as I may never be back email me if you have a question.
Renewed Vision Recommends Motion JPEG A in medium quality for the best playback success. Use MPEGSTREAMCLIP to transpose your original video into MJPEGA.
Karl P
March 9, 2009 at 11:02 am
Hey is it possible to give you a shout? Our church has voted to upgrade from VHS to DVD format on our homebound ministry. I have a limited budget and would like to spend it wisely? We have been using MS Powerpoint and a projection software is in the works. I have been advised to buy mac with Propresenter…I would love to have some pro advise on computer, presenter software, dvd recording, editing…etc…Thanks
March 9, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Hey Daryl,
I sent you an email with contact info and more questions. I’ll offer what assistance I can. But just a warning, I’ve got a lot of things going on right now and ReinforcingTheChurch.com has found its way to the back burner. I’ve been pretty lousy at getting back to people and keeping up with all my phone calls (work’s been busy for me).
Hope you find the help you need and I promise to do my best to be a part of that. (But you might get what you pay for with my free advice!)